Typical… you wait ages for a campaign to promote PVC-U, then two come along at once!! I’ve just been looking at the PVC-Aware campaign site. It’s good but the focus does seem to be on recycling almost (perhaps not quite) to the exclusion of a range of other issues. Personally I think this is a mistake and we need a broader approach to selling the benefits of PVC-U. I certainly agree with Martin that we need to so something to combat the anti-PVC propaganda spread around by the pro-timber lobby and ill-informed environmentalists. I also agree that installers need to get involved in this kind of campaigning. The industry is facing difficult times but part of the reason for this is that installers have traditionally expected the systems companies to tackle these sort of problems on our behalf. In my view they haven’t done a very good job of it but we can’t really complain because we haven’t got involved ourselves. I for one think it’s a great idea to have a forum such as this and look forward with real interest to see whether the industry will use it positively. I sincerely hope so.